Next PECM: where and when

Wolf, I really spend some time thinking about next PECM and can say few hints from my point of view in terms of PECM in CZ. PECM2011 was incedibely well organized and no one can beat it (IMHO). So to not disapoint everyone there are only three ways to go:

a) someone will manage sponsors and rent Most track. Also accomodation around and food and joyrides + everything related. Lets say at least the same hard work as Robert and Katarinka did. And I'm not the one who can handle that. Anyone here in CZ can? OK. Go ahead but do not count with me. I can not handle such complex organization just by my self and telling to you in advance to not be second Croatia guy... just see what happened in 2008 https://pecm.forumfree.it/?f=3924809

b) we make it more as "free ride" that means we meet anywhere in Europe (perhaps here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance) and make trips. Nürburgring, Swiss alps, Italian Alps... anything. Or In Romania in Karpatian mountian and have fun at Transfagarashan higway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transf%C4%83g...r%C4%83%C8%99an) . Anything... Just someone who speaks local language to make few reservations. But everyone must take care of him/her self mostly (especially in terms of food).

c) we make event like this:

day one
- meet in Zajeci (http://winery.vinarstviukaplicky.cz/) and stay there for whole meeting
- the capacity of the guesthouse is now 100 beds. And sice we seen they spread it will be more soon... (price 25€ per person and night)
- food/wine will be paid on a spot (no pre-paid grill party or something). Everyone can eat and drink what he/she like (and there is a lot to drink...). It worked for group of 15people when we were there before PECM2011 so why not working for six or eight groups with similar headcount around each table. That would really save a lot of money and troubles to everyone.

day two
- use "public circuit driving day" (one 25minute ride is like 20€) at Brno circuit www.automotodrombrno.cz/en/ that is like 50kms from Zajeci and spend whole day there
- dinner again the same style and place as day one

day three
- manage "kart races" somewhere in Brno. Anyone can race and have fun and not to be affraid of crash. To rent kart track for lets say 6-7hrs will cost around 2000€
- dinner same way as before...

day four
leave after breakfast...

so only 3things needs to be done for this:
a) fix date when is public circuit driving day at Brno track
b) book whole Zajeci winery soon enough and pay in advance
c) book kart track soon enough and pay in advance

food&drink is resolved on spot (note.: sure it can be organized in Zajeci as well but they have stupid prices in cases like this and it is not worth it so it is not question of impossibility to manage it but question of money...)

that is all I made for now...

I think we should stick to "every second year" pattern.
And the idea of "bus to Prague" looks quite attractive.

is difficult every year to do 4-5000 km with the car. i think is better every 2 years, and who knows? maybe next pecm will be the new celica.

Thank you for this post mate. Just few seconds ago I left pages of your club listing post about PECM2011 and must say Celica Club in LV is much more "mature" an skilled to handle such a big event like PECM than Celica Club CZ is. I just feel it this way right now in this moment. I do not believe we in CZ will make such a big progress in one year (as the club) to be able to start preparations for PECM in 2013.

PECM in 2013 deserve to be in hands of someone who know what to deal with. Also must agree this is the chance to convince people from north to participarte and raise probability they come to participate again in 2015 to Czech Republic. So lets take it as:

PECM2013 = Latvia

Czech Republic will always be there for year 2015

Hi, since we are already looking into possibilities to organize this event, soon enough we will be able to let you know how it looks from our point of view. We have a couple of track options including Bikernieki (in Riga) saloon car and motorcycle racing circuit (around ~1400 EUR for 8 hours), carting track 333 almost like one in the Poland, and some other options. The part that is a bit more problematic - accomodations - single hotel for all the participants, but we are looking ino these matters now, and will report back as soon as it will be possible.

Wolf_Tm250

Yes I was in the Poland, I was "part time driver" for the Venza.

Hi everybody.

First of all I would like to thank all the participants of this event.

About the question of a Pecm on 2012 and another at 2013...
...it seems good but I think it cannot work.
Too early for the organizators and too dificult for the participants to repeat a trip like this every year. So I think it's good to remain at the 2 years pattern as Robert said before.

About the option "b" of Martin's post. I sincerely prefer an organized package for the event as we have always done till now.
I don't think that a free ride meeting or a meeting to Nurburgring (as I also heard a similar proposal) will work for a PECM.

About the place:
If Martin says that Czech club is not ready yet and he can't take the responsability to organize the event by himself I trust him.
So, although I would like very much a meeting there I don't insist and I don't want to press to convince him. It's ok too for the year 2015.

Wolf, you are right, it's logical that a PECM in a place of the Central Europe can have more participants because of the distance, but personally I think that if someone is enough ready (decided) to partecipate to a PECM he will try to do it even if it will be farther.
This year...I've done 4000km from Greece to come to Polland (and I don't count the other 1600km that I make every summer Italy- Greece-Italy hehe! ) and the other greeks have done about 4850km So...if someone wants to do something he will!!

I totaly disagree - as Wolf wrote too - for a west and east europe event .

So.....I think that in Latvia could be a nice Pecm2013!!
I think that I will post a thread about at the greek forum.


LED-BOY and walacc!!!
I'm glad you are here and I'm glad that Latvia wants to organize the next PECM. )
Hope you resolve the problem of the accomodation and if you need anything about the organization count on me.
I would be glad to help you to anything that I could do for you.