What is the Pan European Celica Meeting?
I think that the main goal is to get togheter people with the same Celica passion from all over the European continent...
CITAZIONE (malpaso @ 14/3/2017, 09:14)
Exactly. PECM is about get people together. That's main "DNA of PECM" events. Who cares about unlimited food, resting tents, given watter, 4 star hotel etc... WHO CARES! See your own program. That is inspiration for clean participant friendly event. Is this what they do? Not even for a second! They do NOT care about people and getting them together. They have another priorities - obvious once. You will see there will be no significant drop in price to show they respect the voice of the people. People who already participated already on PECMs. People you know in person (not unknown faces).
Personally I won't be so severe...
I do think that PECM is about "get people Celica togheter", but I'm pretty sure that each of us (so including also you) would decline the "staying togheter" in a different way mainly for personal cultural background and country of origin of the organizer... and that's the good thing, as in this way any PECM will be different from the other.
About the Hotel, the Food, the Entertainment choose and the Prices, "unfortunately or luckily" these are up to the organizing Club... it was always in this way and must be so...
and, as I already wrote, the organizing Club will pay for its choices in terms of number of participants...
CITAZIONE (malpaso @ 15/3/2017, 06:52)
Wolf,
you are mixing two things together in you speak and core of this debate si loosing it's edge. That is wrong. It is like answering my question "I do not want bankers taking our money for nothing" with "it's their business and cultural difference is good". Sure it's main goal of bankers to make money on people and I have nothing against cultural difference but this is not what we are talking about and it has nothing to do with the topic.
Martin, I think I'm not mixing things... and if you ask "I do not want bankers taking our money for nothing", I would just reply you "you are free not to use their money, use barter instead".
That is to say that as you are a long-term meeting organizer, you pretty know that it is IMPOSSIBLE and it is meaningless to listen for Participants' want and whims, as you would end up having NO meeting at all.
You pretty know that once someone, being you, a Club mate or whoever, decides to loose his time and money to make a meeting then Participants are just free to buy OR NOT the Meeting almost "sight unseen":
it is just mandatory to act in this way to have Meetings!
In the end, Martin, at this round, and per your want, as you were asked many times to make a CZ meet, we are just Participants!
So we need to let the Organizers make the Meeting.
And about your worry about them making money out of PECM... don't worry as Economic Law of Demand and Offer is blind, and will just decrease the number of Participants as the Price goes up.